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trielementz · Oct 29, 2007, 11:50 AM // 11:50

not in other campaigns, but gwen changed that a bit. when groups have limited places left, the person who has the relevant title will get picked usually.

but i've seen a KOABD spam flare at a destroyer before so... ...

SotiCoto · Oct 29, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

Question - how do you know they are Kurzicks you are playing with in a pug? Even if displaying a kurzick title, they could be Luxons who just got the title for KoaBD. Oh shi-

I ask them... if I feel like it. Usually I just decline those who are actively displaying the Luxon title... but I'm more critical of any of those who I ask and admit to being Luxons... just for sake of consistancy.

Oh... and I doubt ANYONE EVER would max out the Kurzick / Luxon title track JUST for getting a max rank title. Even Wisdom and Treasure Hunter are less grindy than that.

upier · Oct 29, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29

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Originally Posted by Longasc

Actually the opposite:

He used
1. no healing breeze
2. but also no prot spirit

in hard mode. "Prot Spirit is not necessary", and I am glad I brought Ogden along. He think that prot prayers suck and are ideally done by a specialized protector, which should be the hero.

His favourite build contains Light of Deliverance + Heal Party for mega healing, as he said.

But this is nothing compared to his Ranger builds. He decided to play monk because he is a better monk than ranger.

Yikes!
They seem to be multiplying!
Had an ex-guild who thought that the most über build for a monk consisted of those two skills. ONLY those two skills.

Although I doubt he played a ranger - so it seems they are breeding!

SotiCoto · Oct 29, 2007, 12:56 PM // 12:56

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Originally Posted by upier

Yikes!
They seem to be multiplying!
Had an ex-guild who thought that the most über build for a monk consisted of those two skills. ONLY those two skills.

To be fair.... they're about the only feasible counter to the herohench tendency to cluster in a nuke-zone.

Something really needs to be done about that.... besides trying to separate them all with individual flags.

nugzta · Oct 29, 2007, 12:59 PM // 12:59

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

Oh... and I doubt ANYONE EVER would max out the Kurzick / Luxon title track JUST for getting a max rank title. Even Wisdom and Treasure Hunter are less grindy than that.

http://www.sinsalliance.com/photos/y.../original.aspx

EDIT: btw its not mine :P

Solas · Oct 29, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

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Originally Posted by Age

Nope I don't as titles weren't there 2 years ago.It is not like HA where fame matters or does it.

All titles are more or less then same,imo
weather they are PvE or PvP just have to be at them long enough and you'll get it, if your good you'll get it faster, and this counts for all titles, protector,vanquisher,hero, Commander.

jsut some titles say your at somthing longer, which presumes you've more exp. (not saying that is 100% true)

Raganark · Oct 29, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

Even though I`m a lover of titles personally ,I like seeing them on my character I don`t look for it in pugs

Kusandaa · Oct 29, 2007, 02:35 PM // 14:35

I don't generally care for someone's titles. However, if they have like KoaBD and such I DO expect to know what they're doing... which sometimes has been proved totally wrong. And it's sad. I also know quite a few R9 who have no idea AT ALL on how to work in PvE, and call you a noob when you tell them not to do something, they do it anyways and they die or mess up in a way the group is wiped... then they blame everyone else.

And that's why I partially don't care anymore. You can suck and have titles... and some title-less people are actually pretty good.

ValaOfTheFens · Oct 29, 2007, 02:45 PM // 14:45

I never look at people's titles when puging with them. The only one I ever display is Lightbringer(except in the case of my Mesmer who has Survivor) because its the only one that has any real use. Once some guy asked all the Sunspear Generals to stand next to him and there was this huge mass of them. I had a screen of it but I lost it when I did a system wipe.

Gonzo · Oct 29, 2007, 02:46 PM // 14:46

If I decide to pug I hardly look at titles.

On a sidenote: SotiCoto, I'm in a Kurzick guild, but I have a Luxon armor. Would you pug with me (not that I actually pug, but let's say I do).

Drop of Fear · Oct 29, 2007, 02:48 PM // 14:48

i dont pretend ppl to have any given title to join my group, but if u have a guardian or a vanquisher i'd expect that u know how to play without the need to give directions during the mission/dungen/vanquish.

legendary master of the north, specialy if accomplished this early, makes me sure that i'm playing with sum1 that knows dungeons at least

bungusmaximus · Oct 29, 2007, 02:59 PM // 14:59

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

If I decide to pug I hardly look at titles.

On a sidenote: SotiCoto, I'm in a Kurzick guild, but I have a Luxon armor. Would you pug with me (not that I actually pug, but let's say I do).

Heh say of Soti whatever you want, no doubt he's a raving lunatic, but I rather have 10 role-players in my team then one tard drawing genital parts on the map an whining and yelling all the time.

*once upon a time in a land far far away, where dragons still roamed freely and the earth was drenched with arcane powers, the mighty wizard spake: OMG U NUB I PWN U 1vs1 LOLOLOLOL*

get my point? :P

JoeKnowMo · Oct 29, 2007, 03:01 PM // 15:01

I kick anyone in my pug who says any of the following:

1. wut r ur pve titles?
2. r u kurz or lux?
3. healing breeze is gud.
4. i refuse to change my crappy bar cuz i prefer to let better players carry my weak butt.
5. i roleplay in gw/forums/life.
6. gogogogo

Thanks to this, my pugs never fail.

Metalmaster · Oct 29, 2007, 03:31 PM // 15:31

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

PvE is serious business now?! *runs off to buy People Know Me*

Group with me! group with me!

PvE always was serious business. Didn't u know?

Back to topic: who cares about titles in pugs? Pugs are just for fun

SotiCoto · Oct 29, 2007, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

On a sidenote: SotiCoto, I'm in a Kurzick guild, but I have a Luxon armor. Would you pug with me (not that I actually pug, but let's say I do).

Look at my Avatar.
On the right side.
What is my Necro wearing?

Armour is armour.
I can appreciate German WW2 Tanks without being a Nazi supporter.
I can appreciate Luxon Armour without supporting the Luxons.

[When people quiz my necro about her 15k Luxon armour, I usually reply that it is made of the woven bodies of 15,000 Luxons.]

gloria vander belt · Oct 29, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by bilateralrope

Simple question. When you are forming or joining a PUG for PvE tasks, do look at what titles they have ?

And if you do look, do you actually care what they show ?

Are you caring about the title because of the stats it brings (eg damage reduction from LB for DOA), or because of the skill it shows ?

For those that care for the skill shown, if they are showing a KOBD do you ask them what titles they have contributing for it ?

Personally I don't care about their titles, but I am interested in seeing how people in general feel.

yes i care if i was to pug up, i would pug up with protectors/guardians title holders...id team up with vanquisher title holders and i would certainly most pug up with a Legendary Survivor....then id ask to see there builds and if there builds werent up to speed id ask if they could simply chnage anf i was told it got them where they are today id except it.

thing is i dont wanna pug up with some dude i constantly have to direct threw a mission....

i mean today i was doing unwaking waters hard mode(got masters easy as pie) and some dude just simply asked, "Gloria could u please help as i notice how u HAVE protector of cantha" i said shore i slapped him in my group of henchies and heros didnt even have to ping my build he was that confident"

another group asked me to help with the wild's in prophecies cus i had my protector of tyria title on show, i said shore just listen to me and watch for my lure/stay back lines and they all did no problems.

(i change my protectors title per campaign)

in night falls i dont have a title and no 1 wants to ever pug up(5 masters away from title, but my computer wont log into certain areas) and i cant get the heros needed(well i have magrid the sly but not master of whispers) for the 3 non torment missions....i cant go past Gate of Pain *got masters* but wont let me in the area outside to continue with the primary quest!!

simple answer is yes PPL care about titles, but theres those who think a good build from each character will get them threw(dont work like that)

(i dont pug up much but whne i do its either cus some 1 needs my help, or i need some1 who knows the mission(rarely ever)

gloria vander belt · Oct 29, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Heh say of Soti whatever you want, no doubt he's a raving lunatic, but I rather have 10 role-players in my team then one tard drawing genital parts on the map an whining and yelling all the time.

*once upon a time in a land far far away, where dragons still roamed freely and the earth was drenched with arcane powers, the mighty wizard spake: OMG U NUB I PWN U 1vs1 LOLOLOLOL*

get my point? :P

ya i agree i hate the stupid genatilia drawing noobs, or the noobs who dont have protectors title yelling "ur doing it wrong", i simply reply "i got protectors title R-Tard!!!" and it shuts the up normally(reason i stopped pugging up with people in Tyria cus ppl tried to tell me how to do the mission even when i was getting them threw)...got to factions and never Pugged once(except to help ppl but thats rare)

Yang Whirlwind · Oct 29, 2007, 03:58 PM // 15:58

I don't pug much these days, but I remember that I only looked at their armor and titles if they started to give off that "noob wibe" like a necro asking what SS was when we asked if he could set up for that

I like to give people a chance to prove themselves before I pass any kind of judgement,- but having failed many, many times in the past while pugging I feel somewhat justified in being careful now, so I can at least give some advice on a good build before its to late and the entire team is pushing up daisies with the enemy MM's pulling minions out our butts

eloc_jcg · Oct 29, 2007, 04:06 PM // 16:06

The first time around, I really don't care. If we fail, 2nd time I ask them to ping their skills. As for titles, I could really care less.

Equaliser · Oct 29, 2007, 04:20 PM // 16:20

I do look sometime but it never factor into forming a pug group.

I think the main reason is that you can't seen title in the search menu only class, name, and district.

Title doesn't mean much. I have met plenty of people who have "cool" title who are more interested in showing off their 1337ness then completing the mission.

So haven't people with "cool" title isn't alway a good thing.